- Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Turku, Turku, Finland
A fundamental feature of quantum mechanics is that there are observable pairs that cannot be measured jointly, such as observables corresponding to position and momentum or spin direction measurements. However, unsharp versions of non-jointly measurable observables may become jointly measurable. In this study, we investigate the joint measurability of time-continuous observables emerging from indirect time-continuous measurements. In particular, we study a paradigmatic situation where a qubit is interacting with a mode of light in a cavity, and the light escaping the cavity is continuously monitored. We find that the properties of the observables can be tuned by changing the type of the monitoring scheme or by tuning the initial state of the cavity. In particular, we demonstrate that heterodyne measurements are a joint measurement of a noisy homodyne measurement of a pair of canonical quadratures. Moreover, we investigate the purity of the induced qubit observables as a function of the noise.
1 Introduction
One of the most important differences between classical and quantum physics is how measurements are defined. Indeterminacy in classical mechanics is captured by classical probability theory, and in particular, arbitrarily precise simultaneous measurements of multiple degrees of freedom are possible (Busch et al., 2016). In quantum theory, however, different degrees of freedom, such as position and momentum, for example, do not commute (Born and Jordan, 1925). This leads to fundamental differences between quantum and classical theory, such as various uncertainty relations (Busch et al., 2007). A general description of a quantum measurement is given by a positive operator-valued measure (POVM), which provides the measurement outcome probabilities predicted by quantum mechanics (Heinosaari and Ziman, 2011). POVMs, in contrast to sharp or projective measurements, are more general. For example, they discriminate quantum states better (Oszmaniec and Biswas, 2019; Uola et al., 2019) and are a more realistic model for measurement implementation (Busch et al., 2016; Wiseman, 1996; Guryanova et al., 2020).
Another advantage of POVMs arises from measurement uncertainty. Projective measurements can only be measured accurately together if they commute; otherwise the measurements will have uncertainty, following Heisenberg’s and Robertson’s famous uncertainty relations (Heisenberg, 1927; Robertson, 1929; Robertson, 1934). However, due to the larger number of possible measurements, we can have POVMs that are non-commuting but can still be measured accurately. For this reason, the notion of the joint measurability of POVMs was introduced (Busch, 1985; Busch, 1986). A set of measurements is said to be compatible or jointly measurable if a single measurement exists from which it is possible to postprocess, using classical probability theory, the measurement outcomes of all of the measurements in the set (Heinosaari and Ziman, 2011; Stano et al., 2008; Uola et al., 2016).
Research on joint measurability has often focused on finding criteria for joint measurability (Busch, 1986; Stano et al., 2008; Jae et al., 2019; Uola et al., 2014; Busch and Schmidt, 2010; Yu et al., 2010; Beneduci, 2014; Pellonpää et al., 2023), quantifying incompatibility (Heinosaari et al., 2015; Designolle et al., 2019; Pusey, 2015; Haapasalo, 2015; Uola et al., 2015; Cavalcanti et al., 2016), its relation to other similar concepts such as coexistence (Lahti, 2003; Haapasalo et al., 2015; Reeb et al., 2013), and its applications in quantum information processing such as quantum steering (Karthik et al., 2015; Uola et al., 2020; Kiukas et al., 2017; Quintino et al., 2014; Nguyen et al., 2019; Cavalcanti and Skrzypczyk, 2016; Chen et al., 2016.; Chen et al., 2017; Uola et al., 2021; Uola et al., 2018), Bell nonlocality (Fine, 1982; Wolf et al., 2009; Andersson et al., 2005; Son et al., 2005; Bene and Vértesi, 2018; Quintino et al., 2016; Hirsch et al., 2018), quantum contextuality (Budroni et al., 2022; Xu and Cabello, 2019; Spekkens, 2005; Tavakoli and Uola, 2020; Selby et al., 2023), self-testing (Tavakoli et al., 2020), tests on Heisenberg uncertainty relations (Mao et al., 2022), and estimating the parameters of quantum Hamiltonians (McNulty et al., 2023). More information can be found in a recent review by Gühne et al. (2023).
Joint measurements can be constructed, for example, by mixing POVMs adaptively (Uola et al., 2016), using an ansatz that produces desired marginals (Jae et al., 2019), or by Naimark dilation (Haapasalo and Pellonpää, 2017). In this study, we focus on the indirect construction of joint measurements by time-continuous quantum measurements using the paradigmatic heterodyne and homodyne measurement schemes well known from quantum optics and cavity QED.
Continuous measurements themselves are a well-established concept. Pioneering research on them goes as far back as the 1980s (Srinivas and Davies, 1981; Barchielli et al., 1982; Gisin, 1984; Barchielli and Lupieri, 1985; Diósi, , 1986; Diósi, 1988; B and elavkin, 1989). They have been applied in quantum optics (Wiseman, 1996; Carmichael et al., 1989; Wiseman, 1993; Wiseman and Milburn, 1993; Garraway and Knight, 1994; Wiseman, 1995; Plenio and Knight, 1998; Doherty and Jacobs, 1999). Some early derivations of continuous measurement driven by Gaussian noise, similar to what will be used later here, have been derived in Carmichael et al. (1989), Wiseman and Milburn (1993), and Doherty and Jacobs (1999). For a comprehensive treatise on continuous measurements, see, for example, Jacobs and Steck (2006). Time-continuous joint measurements have seen some use in entanglement generation, theoretically (Duan et al., 2000; Clark et al., 2003; Motzoi et al., 2015) and experimentally (Roch et al., 2014). Simultaneous continuous weak measurements have also been used to measure non-commuting observables (Jordan and Büttiker, 2005; Wei and Nazarov, 2008; Ruskov et al., 2010; Chantasri et al., 2018) with even an experimental demonstration of a measurement on a superconducting qubit (Hacohe et al., 2016).
It has been established in the case of an empty cavity mode that such a scenario implements a POVM that depends on the continuously measured photon stream and is measured on the initial state prepared in the cavity (Wiseman, 1996; Goetsch and Graham, 1994). We here extend this concept to a situation where a two-level system (a qubit), such as an atom, is placed into the cavity, and we ask how sharp the measurements implemented on the qubit are. In particular, we focus on two situations: the heterodyne and the homodyne measurement schemes.
Previous research has focused on the concept of compatibility and the applications of joint measurements in quantum information processing. Measurement construction, however, has been a less popular topic in research, particularly constructions of time-continuous joint measurements. We study here the construction of time-continuous measurements. We will indirectly construct a noisy joint measurement using the paradigmatic heterodyne and homodyne measurement schemes well-known from quantum optics and cavity QED. We also study squeezing of the initial state of the cavity as a potential tuning parameter. We compare the sharpness of the marginal observables in the heterodyne and homodyne case. We find that homodyning produces sharper observables than heterodyning and that the sharpness of the measured quadrature can be improved by squeezing the initial state of the cavity in the same quadrature being continuously measured.
This approach may open up new ways of constructing joint observables that can be tuned using techniques known from quantum optics. Our theoretical results have applications beyond cavity QED setups and could also be experimentally used in superconducting qubits in microwave resonators or ultracold atomic gases.
The outline of this article is as follows. In Section 2, we discuss the concept of joint measurability and introduce a quantifier for the sharpness of qubit observables. Section 3 presents the model system we study and the different time-continuous measurements investigated. Then, in Section 4, we numerically compute the qubit observables induced by the time-continuous measurement of the light escaping from the cavity, and present our findings. Lastly, Section 5 discusses the implications of our findings.
2 Joint measurability
A “positive operator valued measure” (POVM) is a collection of positive operators which is complete. The POVMs we consider in this work have a continuous sample space
If a system is prepared into a state
Effects
for any state
where
where

Figure 1. Wigner function (left), Husimi Q-function (middle) and their marginal position distribution (right) for a number state
Importantly, heterodyne measurement provides an implementation of the measurement of the Husimi
Measurements on two-level systems or qubits are very well understood. In particular, joint measurability for qubits is well established (Busch, 1986; Stano et al., 2008; Busch and Schmidt, 2010; Yu et al., 2010). A positive operator (effect) acting on a two-dimensional Hilbert space can be written in terms of a bias
where the latter inequalities are conditions for positivity. We collect the parameters of the effect into a four-vector.
The effect
This also defines a scalar product between the effects. The positivity condition is compactly written as
3 Joint time-continuous measurement
In this study, we focus on the Markov regime and on heterodyne and homodyne measurements of a qubit in a leaky cavity (Figure 2). The qubit, the cavity mode, and their interaction are described by the following Hamiltonian in the rotating wave approximation:

Figure 2. Measurement scheme. A qubit is interacting with a leaky cavity mode, and the light escaping from the cavity is measured. Measurement outcomes
This is the famous Jaynes–Cummings Hamiltonian (Jaynes and Cummings, 1963). The cavity mode is leaky (with rate
The dynamics above can be unraveled in various ways into stochastic trajectories driven by white noise processes such that the ensemble average dynamics coincide with the average state dynamics. The linear quantum state diffusion (QSD) equation (Gisin and Percival, 1992) that unravels the GKSL equation is
where
The ensemble average over different realizations of
which is the product of the probability (density) for the stochastic process and the norm of the state. From the linear QSD equation, we deduce
We can express the noise
where
are averages with respect to different marginals of the joint measure for the process
where we used
when averaging over the real part of the noise. We see that the partial averaging produces a sandwich term and terms containing
for the
for the
These equations are to be contrasted with an equation where we directly measure either
A similar equation also holds for the
The average evolution for noisy
and
for the
We have thus determined that the noisy
The same noise bound holds for the induced qubit observable because the trace of the marginal state is the same as that of the joint state
where
4 Numerical examples
It is well known that the heterodyne detection corresponds to measuring the Husimi
We consider that the system and the cavity are in a product state before the measurement process begins. We also assume that the state of the cavity is pure. We consider two cases: the vacuum state
and
This is illustrated in Figure 2, with the inverse of the correlation time being
The linear stochastic equations analyzed in this work are all solved by a propagator
Depending on the particular scenario, this propagator is a functional of
with a similar formula for
with similar formulas for
The continuous measurement yields more information about the initial state the longer the system is measured. This means that for measurements of negligible duration, the POVM element is the identity. This is independent of the initial state of the system (Figure 3).

Figure 3. Top: Sharpness of the homodyne measured
In the top panel of Figure 3, we see that the sharpness
5 Discussion
Since joint measurements have become the standard for describing the measurement of multiple POVMs, their properties have been significantly researched. It is of interest to find the least noisy joint observables whose properties can be tailored. The focus of previous research has been on the concept of compatibility and the applications of joint measurements in quantum information processing, while constructing actual joint measurements has been a less popular topic of research. Specifically, there are very few studies that construct time-continuous joint measurements.
In this study, we have ventured on this less traversed avenue. We explicitly constructed the noisy time-continuous quadratures that are jointly implemented in the heterodyning measurement. In particular, we found an explicit threshold for mixing the homodyne measurement with the average dynamics, leading to the noisy quadrature measurements implemented in the heterodyning scenario. This approach may open up new ways to construct joint observables that can be tuned using techniques known from quantum optics. A simple tuning parameter we investigated here was the squeezing of the initial state of the cavity.
We investigated the sharpness of the marginal observables induced for the qubit subsystem in the heterodyne case and compared those with the homodyne case. We found that homodyning produces sharper observables than heterodyning and the sharpness of the measured quadrature can be improved by squeezing the initial state of the cavity in the same quadrature being continuously measured.
This research may open up new ways to implement joint measurements. Our results are applicable beyond cavity QED setups and would work for any system where general dyne measurements can be carried out, such as superconducting qubits in microwave resonators or ultra cold atomic gases. These new implementations for joint measurements could also be applied in quantum network settings, since joint measurement are necessary for zero-error quantum communication (Gyongyosi et al., 2018).
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Author contributions
KR: Writing – review and editing. KL: Writing – original draft, Writing – review and editing.
Funding
The author(s) declare that financial support was received for the research and/or publication of this article. Funding from the Quantum QDOC doctoral pilot program and Turku Collegium for Science Medicine and Technology (TCSMT) is greatly acknowledged.
Acknowledgments
KL would like to thank Roope Uola, Erkka Haapasalo, Juha-Pekka Pellonpää, Pauli Jokinen, Andrea Smirne, and Konstantin Beyer for helpful discussions.
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Keywords: quantum mechanics, quantum information, foundations of quantum measurement, open quantum systems, quantum communication
Citation: Raikisto K and Luoma K (2025) Joint observables induced by indirect measurements in cavity QED. Front. Quantum Sci. Technol. 4:1601795. doi: 10.3389/frqst.2025.1601795
Received: 28 March 2025; Accepted: 29 August 2025;
Published: 17 October 2025.
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