Abstract
We derive a bound for entropy production in terms of the mean of normalizable path-antisymmetric observables. The optimal observable for this bound is shown to be the signum of entropy production, which is often easier determined or estimated than entropy production itself. It can be preserved under coarse graining by the use of a simple path grouping algorithm. We demonstrate this relation and its properties using a driven network on a ring, for which the bound saturates for short times for any driving strength. This work can open a way to systematic coarse graining of entropy production.
1 Introduction
A common way of analyzing complex systems is observation of particle trajectories, e.g., via microscopy [1–3] in biological systems [4–8] or complex fluids [9, 10]. Detecting and quantifying the deviation from equilibrium, i.e., the violation of detailed balance, based on trajectories is, however, a challenging task, especially if relevant degrees of freedom are hidden, and non-equilibrium processes are random [11–17]. Several methods for such detection have been developed.
The fluctuation dissipation theorem (FDT) connects fluctuations and response functions [18], and it is violated out of equilibrium [19–21]. How far away from equilibrium a system is, e.g., has been quantified by using the so-called effective temperatures or effective energies [22–27].
Another way of detecting broken detailed balance is via entropy production, which has been found to obey a variety of theorems including the fluctuation theorems [28–31]. A number of important relations have been found that bound entropy production, such as the thermodynamic uncertainty relation (TUR) [32–38]. The TUR bounds mean and variance of currents by entropy production or vice versa. It has been extended and refined, including path antisymmetric observables (FTUR) or to more general path weights [39–42] and has been applied to experiments and numerical data [43–46]. Little is, however, known about how bounds behave under coarse graining.
In this paper, we derive an entropy bound in terms of the mean of path-antisymmetric observables, based on an integrated fluctuation theorem. In contrast to the TUR and FTUR, it does not involve the variance of the observable. We determine the optimal observable, i.e., the observable that maximizes the bound, to be the signum of entropy production so that a relation between entropy production and its sign appears. As this relation saturates for a binary process at short times, we argue that no better relation between entropy production and its sign can exist with the same range of validity. The sign of entropy production, and hence the bound for entropy production, can be preserved under coarse graining with a simple path grouping rule. We apply these results for a discrete network on a ring. For this network, the signum of entropy production is coarse-grained under preservation to the signum of the traveled distance, demonstrating how a bound for microscopic entropy production is obtained from a macroscopic observable. Under such coarse graining, entropy production can at most reduce to the original bound.
2 Setup and fluctuation theorem
A path observable is considered, with path ω in the phase space, with path probability p[ω], and the average is formally given by the sum over paths [47] . To construct a marker for path reversal, the sum is reordered [48]
We introduced notation for path reversal, θω, including reversal of time and of kinematic reversal of momenta [49]. Validity of Eq. 1 requires the sum of paths to include θω for any included ω. Adding a zero yieldswhere the term in the first line of Eq. 2 is the path symmetric part of O:
With detailed balance obeyed, i.e., p[ω] = p[θω], antisymmetric observables average to zero, and
Violations of Eq. 4, thus, indicate the breakage of detailed balance [50, 51]. Although the symmetric part O+ does not appear in the final result, Eq. 12 below, for the derivation, it is useful to start with O+ finite.
To quantify the path reversal properties of cases that break detailed balance, we introduce the stochastic change in entropy defined as the log ratio of path probabilities (kB = 1) [52–54].
For simplicity, we will, in the following, refer to s as the entropy production despite some caveats regarding this term1. The thermodynamic relevance of s is a topic of its own, which has been discussed in various works [52–54]. Substituting s into Eq. 2 yields
Reordering the terms yields a fluctuation theorem including O:
Equation 7 may be found equivalently from the so-called strong detailed fluctuation theorem [48] and has been stated in the similar form [50].
3 Entropy bound
Equation 7 can be used to find bounds for s, and we, therefore, restrict to positive observables, O[ω] ≥ 0. This allows Jensen’s inequality [55, 56] to be applied for the average , to obtain from Eq. 7,
As expected from Jensen’s inequality, Eq. 8 saturates for small s, as seen by expanding it in this limit,
Taking the logarithm of Eq. 8 yields a lower bound for the correlation 2
Because the conjugate observable O*[ω] = O[θω] is non-negative if O is non-negative, Eq. 10 is also valid for O*. The bounds for and may, thus, be added to arrive at a bound for , the correlation of s, and the symmetric part O+:Notably, when adding Eq. 10 for and , the linear term in Eq. 9 drops out so that Eq. 11 does, in general, not saturate for small s. As will be discussed below, it saturates for a binary process for short times, for any value of s.
A direct way to extract a bound for from Eq. 11 is by considering O+ = 1, i.e., path-independent. In order for O to be positive, the antisymmetric part, 2O−[ω] = O[ω] − O[θω], must be normalized to . This yields the following equation:
Equation 12 is a main result of this paper, a bound for entropy production in terms of the average of the antisymmetric observable O−. This relation is, thus, fundamentally different from uncertainty relations, which bound entropy production in terms of mean and variance [40].
The condition of may seem to be a strong restriction of validity of Eq. 12. However, a bound between and can only be useful if O− is normalizable, i.e., if a maximum value of exists. Whenever this maximum exists, O− can be normalized to fulfill . Eq. 12 is, thus, applicable for any normalizable antisymmetric observable. We also note that the right hand side of Eq. 12 is non-negative so that any non-zero yields a positive bound for .
Equation 12 can be read in the following two ways: (i) a given yields a bound for how far the mean of (any) O− can deviate from zero. Using, e.g., a time interval from −t0 to t0, O− can be the time-moment at which a certain event occurs, which is then bound by via Eq. 12. This will be investigated in future works. (ii) A given non-vanishing value of yields a lower bound for entropy production. We will analyze this below.
The form of Eq. 12 is illustrated in Figure 1. For small , the bound grows quadratically in , while it diverges logarithmically for .
FIGURE 1

Illustration of Eq. 12 in terms of antisymmetric observable , with the accessible area marked in green. For , the bound diverges logarithmically.
4 Optimal observable: signum of entropy
Equation 12, as mentioned, is valid for any normalizable antisymmetric observable, and, naturally, the observable that maximizes the right hand side of it yields the best estimate for . Which observable is it? Answering this important question has been found non-trivial for entropy bounds [58, 59], while it has a clear answer for Eq. 12. To see this, rewrite3
In the second step, we used the anti-symmetry of O−. The inequality in the last step of Eq. 13 follows by noting that the sum is maximized if O−[ω] = 1 for p[ω] > p[θω] and O−[ω] = −1 for p[ω] < p[θω]. This is the definition of O− = sign(s)4.
As the right hand side of Eq. 12 is a monotonically growing function of (compare Figure 1), O− = sign(s) yields the optimal bound for from Eq. 12. To emphasize this, we write explicitly
The first inequality of Eq. 14 bounds by . Writing shows that and that only if , i.e., Eq. 14 yields a finite bound for any finite . The second inequality of Eq. 14 restates that O− = sign(s) yields the optimal bound so that any other O− lies below it.
5 Coarse graining
A bound of in terms of is fundamentally interesting, and it is also useful, as, e.g., has beneficial properties under coarse graining. Therefore, consider coarse-grained paths Ω with probabilities P(Ω) = ∑ω∈Ωp(ω) and coarse-grained entropy production . Naturally, O− = sign(S) fulfills Eq. 13 so that for any grouping of paths,
Coarse graining, thus, leads, in general, to a decrease in , reminiscent of the finding that also decreases under coarse graining [60]. Notably, grouping paths according to the sign of s, i.e., with sign(s[ω]) = sign(S[Ωo]) conserves.
Under this “optimal” (index o) coarse graining, the bound provided by sign(s) is invariant so that the macroscopic yields the same bound as the microscopic . Furthermore, as the bound must hold for s and So alike, coarse-grained entropy production So never falls below the original, microscopic bound. This algorithm, thus, provides a controlled coarse graining of entropy production, which is especially useful if the bound from sign(s) is close to s.
6 Example: network on a ring
To display this in an example, consider a network on a ring, where every state is connected to two neighbors (see inset sketch of Figure 2). In every discrete time step, a particle jumps to the left (right) with probability p (q). For q ≠ p, the system violates detailed balance and shows a directed flow. After N steps, the probability of finding a specific path with nL steps to the left is given by the binomial distribution , with L the number of states in the network. With it, entropy production after N steps is given by the following equation:
FIGURE 2

Network on a ring model: entropy production as a function of N, Eq. 17, for p =0.57, versus the bound obtained from Eq. 12 for various observables as sign(s), sign(d) and using numerical simulations. The gray dotted line is the asymptotic limit of large N. The graph also shows optimally coarse-grained entropy .
Optimal coarse graining can be performed here in a straightforward manner: because s = d log(p/q), the sign of entropy production equals the sign of d = nL − nR (for p > q), with nR being the number of steps to the right, i.e., sign(d[ω]) = sign(s[ω]). This system, thus, allows coarse graining toward the measurement of the net displacement d, under preservation of the bound. We may expect that d is easier to measure than s.
Having established that Eq. 12 is maximal for O− = sign(d[ω]), we can test the quality of the estimate for provided by it. For N = 1, and
For N = 1, the bound of Eq. 12, thus, meets entropy production exactly, for any p and q, i.e., arbitrarily far from equilibrium. This is the abovementioned case of the binary process, where a particle either jumps right or left.
Figure 2 shows and the bound of Eq. 12 as a function of N. For N > 1, the bound grows sublinear in N for an intermediate range and, thus, falls below the value of s. For N ≫ 1, it approaches a linear asymptote, which can be found via a large deviation principle. We find for and N → ∞ [61],i.e., approaches unity exponentially fast with N. Because of this, the bound for s of Eq. 12 grows linear in N, and substituting (19) into Eq. 12 yields , shown as a gray line in the graph. The ratio between this large N asymptote and of Eq. 17 varies between for p → 1 and for .
Coarse graining groups paths according to their displacement, i.e., Ω for d > 0 and θΩ for d < 0. This way, the coarse-grained entropy can be determined, which is also shown in Figure 2. The curve demonstrates that it, as expected, stays above the bound. As only two coarse grained paths with finite So exist, it is obtained from.
Notably, the bound shown in Eq. 12 is saturated with respect to So for odd N, as indicated. For N even, paths with zero entropy production exist, and the second equality shown in Eq. 21 is not valid, and Eq. 12 lies below . For large N, these differences vanish so that the bound of Eq. 12 and share the same asymptote. In this system, entropy production may, thus, be coarse-grained by a maximal loss of a factor between 2 and 4, depending on p, using the optimal algorithm.
According to Eq. 13, any other normalizable antisymmetric observable should yield a lower bound, which we exemplify by using O− = tanh(d/2). Indeed, it lies lower but approaches the optimal bound for large N because then, a typical trajectory shows d ≫ 1 so that tanh(d/2) becomes equivalent to sign(d).
Although optimal coarse graining is possible in an exact manner in this model, we expect an approximate preservation of sign(s) to be possible in more complicated systems, which will be investigated in future works.
Can we compare to other relations such as TUR? The original TUR is not applicable to time-discrete dynamics, as used in this example. We, thus, compare to the so-called FTUR [40], as shown in Figure 3. Not knowing the optimal observable for FTUR, we use sign(s) and s, analytically computing the required variances for these two. Interestingly, for each of the three curves shown in the figure, there exists a regime of N, where it provides the highest estimate. It is also remarkable that FTUR used with sign(s) can provide a better estimate compared to using s. This shows the advantage of Eq. 17, for which the optimal observable is known, leading to the coarse-graining scheme. It also shows that the comparison between these relations is rich and non-trivial and needs to be studied in future works.
7 Discussion
Entropy production is bound by the mean of normalizable antisymmetric observables. The optimal observable is identified to be the signum of entropy production so that we determine a bound between entropy production and its sign, sign(s). The latter may often be estimated from simple observables, like here, the displacement on a ring. The network example shows that measuring sign(s) (did the particle move left or right?) is expected to require a lower experimental resolution compared to measuring s (where did the particle move when?). One can also estimate ⟨sign(s)⟩ by the use of Eq. (13), i.e., by testing various observables O− and finding the maximum deviation from zero. For the investigated network, approaches unity exponentially fast with the number of steps so that the bound grows with the expected linear dependence. Grouping paths according to sign(s) yields a coarse-graining algorithm that preserves sign(s) and the bound. The presented analysis is not restricted to specific dynamics. Due to this, it is, additionally to the here-discussed discrete system, also valid for fluids and biological systems [27]. Future work may investigate applications to Langevin systems as well, like active Brownian particles, or quantum mechanics [62–65].
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GK: writing–original draft. TM: writing–review and editing. TB: writing–review and editing. MK: writing–original draft.
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The authors thank É. Fodor for a critical reading of the paper and Peter Sollich and Cai Dieball for insightful discussions. The authors acknowledge support by the Open Access Publication Funds of the Göttingen University.
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Footnotes
1.^The entropy defined in Eq. 5 corresponds to the total change in entropy in overdamped stationary systems. In underdamped or non-stationary systems, the boundary terms differ [54].
2.^A similar relation was derived in [57], however, with the left hand side always negative.
3.^Eq. 13 holds also for −O− and thus for .
4.^The terms with p[ω] = p[θω] cancel in the sum in Eq. 13 due to O−[ω] = −O−[θω], and O−[ω] can be chosen arbitrarily in these cases.
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Summary
Keywords
entropy production, statistical physics, non-equilibrium, fluctuation theorems, coarse graining, detailed balance breakage
Citation
Knotz G, Muenker TM, Betz T and Krüger M (2024) Entropy bound for time reversal markers. Front. Phys. 11:1331835. doi: 10.3389/fphy.2023.1331835
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01 November 2023
Accepted
19 December 2023
Published
02 February 2024
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11 - 2023
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Juan Manuel López, Spanish National Research Council (CSIC), Spain
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Ayan Banerjee, Indian Institute of Science Education and Research Kolkata, India
Biswajit Das, Indian Institute of Science Education and Research Kolkata, India, in collaboration with reviewer [AB]
Miguel Rubi, University of Barcelona, Spain
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